Public opinion is generally supportive of the India-Australia defense collaboration, viewing it as a strategic measure to counter China's influence in the Indo-Pacific. The partnership is seen positively, with optimism about enhanced regional security and strengthened international alliances for India. Despite this, some skepticism exists regarding India's diplomatic strategies and the caution needed due to historical geopolitical dynamics, emphasizing the necessity of maintaining balanced power in the region.

India

Australia

China

Namaskaram /u/rkaria1970, Thank you for your submission. Please provide a source for the image / video (if not a direct link submission). We would really appreciate it if you could mention the source as a reply to this comment! If you have already provided the source or if it is an OC post, please ignore this message.  Thank you.


*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/IndiaSpeaks) if you have any questions or concerns.*

AutoModerator

Striking multiple airbases of the enemy, one which includes their capital city is a huge win and whoever says it is not is either a retard or a pakistani

Relative_Level_7436

If those pakichus could read, they would be truly disappointed.

[deleted]

Something is going on - first the Sky news has been running favourable headlines for India and now the Australian military historian. 

I am so used to watching only negative stuff (CNN asked our Indian diplomat if this is a Hindu Muslim war!) and reading negative news about us. Not seeking their validation, but it's weird when the white man media says something about India in a war.

Inquisitive_gal

Tom Cooper is a respected analyst. His opinion holds weight. 

AlbusDT2

omnivision12345

What’s ignored with such analysis is that non conventional conflict (terrorism) is the greatest risk to India. That doesn’t need airbases or heavy armour, it just needs angry young men.

SuperannuationLawyer

They won't affect you in any way. 
The construction of submarines takes a lot of time. 
The timing of the transfer of the current Virginia-type submarines for Australia has already been shifted to 2034, and if the construction of submarines in the United States is delayed, then at a later date. 
Nuclear submarines. It is also difficult for India to expect earlier than 2035. 
Therefore, making a forecast now of what will happen in 10 years is not science fiction.

Any-Original-6113

These submarines mean that Australia can punch way above its weight on the seas. The subs are hard to detect and act like "snipers" in the ocean.  They lie and wait for the right opportunity and then can take out destroyers, cruisers, frigates, or even cargo ships etc. Those ships being taken out by subs take 5-7 years to build. The Chinese could lose some precious military hardware in a potential conflict.

Australia and the US are pretty solid allies due to their history, shared language and culture. The Aussies are one of the few countries the Americans will share its submarine technology with. One of China's weaknesses is that it really doesn't have any allies like the US does. The closest ally I can think of is maybe North Korea or Vietnam but even that is debatable.

As for India, they are a wild card for geopolitics. At the end of the day, India looks out for India and has no issues playing all sides. That said, I don't see a scenario where India goes to war for any side. Just providing support and allowing other nations to use its airspace or possibly military bases.

Lokican

A few submarines parked off Sri Lanka can cripple China with impunity. Most of their oil comes on that route.

TacticalGarand44

The whole idea is parity maintenance with Chinese capabilities in the region. If the US is too stretched between Europe and Asia, then powers around Asia have to supplement US forces in the region to maintain democratic nations' parity in Asia against China, in a combined fashion - including in the nuclear submarines realm.

The idea here is to maintain the status quo. Nothing changes. Without those nuclear subs and other military investment by Asian and Oceania countries, China's strategic calculus allows it to wage wars of nationalist and expansionism. And those will happen, in the death-throes of a CCP that uses jingoist nationalism to maintain popular support as they fall of that demographic cliff of their own creation.

WellOkayMaybe

There is a close civil if not military relationship between India and Australia. We were both ruled over by the British and we fought side by side many times in their wars, each gained independence etc.

The UK and US lost India's trust after what played out last century.

Australia leveraged that in order to land the Sub deal. And it seems likely the deal is that India covers off the Indian Ocean and ranging into the Malacca/Singapore/Malaysia. And Australia will cover off the South Pacific, Solomons, PNG, Indonesia.

That will secure most of the Indo-Pacific and enable USA to focus on their local region plays from Guam, Philippines, Japan and SK.

One major role that Australia will focus on is enforcing the South Pacific Nuclear Free Zone.

[https://www.un.org/nwfz/sites/www.un.org.nwfz/files/images/rarotonga\_map.jpg](https://www.un.org/nwfz/sites/www.un.org.nwfz/files/images/rarotonga_map.jpg)

PTMorte

Users often report submissions from this site for sensationalized articles. Readers have a responsibility to be skeptical, check sources, and comment on any flaws.

You can help improve this thread by linking to media that verifies or questions this article's claims. Your link could help readers better understand this issue.

*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/worldnews) if you have any questions or concerns.*

They got imf loan of 1B and guess what they did, compensate a terrorist for loss of his infrastructure during indian strikes. What a miserable country to live man!

Chemical-Highway-941

Alright I just gotta ask, is referring to Pakistan by the shorthand Pak meant as an insult? At least where I'm from, if someone who isn't a friend/family/teammate is using a diminutive or shorthand of your name it is usually considered an insult.

Shem_Penman

ProtectionUnique8411



🔗 **Bypass paywalls**:

* [archive.today - www.ndtv.com
                ](https://archive.is/submit/?submitid=&amp;url=https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/us-india-defense-cooperation-act-us-senator-introduces-bill-that-proposes-to-treat-india-like-its-top-allies-6190566) | [Google Webcache - www.ndtv.com](http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/us-india-defense-cooperation-act-us-senator-introduces-bill-that-proposes-to-treat-india-like-its-top-allies-6190566)


📣 **[Submission Statement by OP](/r/GeopoliticsIndia/comments/1ecd4nt/us_senator_introduces_bill_that_proposes_to_treat/lez323d/)**:
&gt; SS: US Senator Marco Rubio on Thursday introduced a bill in the Congress that proposes to treat India on par with its allies like as Japan, Israel, Korea and NATO allies regarding technology transfers, support India in its response to growing threats to its territorial integrity and bar Pakistan from receiving security assistance if it is found to have sponsored terrorism against India.
&gt;
&gt;"Communist China continues to aggressively expand its domain in the Indo-Pacific region, all while it seeks to impede the sovereignty and autonomy of our regional partners. It's crucial for the U.S. to continue its support in countering these malicious tactics. India, along with other nations in the region, is not alone," Rubio said after he introduced the U.S.-India Defense Cooperation Act in the Senate.
&gt;
&gt;Given the short timeline of a bitterly divided Congress in an election year, the bill is unlikely to make much headway, but might be reintroduced in the next Congress given that there is a bipartisan level of support on the India-US relationship. The bill notes that the US-India partnership is vital to countering influences from Communist China. In order to strengthen this partnership, it is essential to enhance our strategic diplomatic, economic, and military relationship with New Delhi, it asserts. 

**📜 Community Reminder**: Let’s keep our discussions civil, respectful, and on-topic. Abide by the subreddit rules. Rule-violating comments will be removed.



**📰 Media Bias fact Check Rating :**  NDTV – Bias and Credibility 




|Metric|Rating|
|:-|:-|
|Bias Rating|left-center|
|Factual Rating| mixed|
|Credibility Rating|medium credibility|

This rating was provided by Media Bias Fact Check. For more information, see NDTV – Bias and Credibility's review 
[here](https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ndtv/).
***

❓ Questions or concerns? [Contact our moderators](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=/r/GeopoliticsIndia).

GeoIndModBot

I’m good on this one. Nothing personal against India. Although I’d really frickin’ appreciate if you’d stop blowing up our phones with robocalls. They’re just a bit too friendly with Russia to be put on par with NATO allies. Stay friends? Sure, but I don’t think I’m ready to take the next step in our relationship.

Unabashable

Strategic autonomy in foreign policy is all good, but sometimes I really feel if India should he a little pragmatic. If being a puppet of US brings economic prosperity and vastly improves the quality of life,  then that is something worth considering.

IndBeak

bravo-for-existing

Maybe if India leaved BRICS and stops dealing with RU and CH. Otherwise there is no strategic benefit to treat India (sharing of intel) like an ally.

As long as India buddies up with Russia, this would be a big mistake.

Dunkel_Jungen

Hell yea baby....all these russian bots should shut up....it's the americans who are gonna provide with aid when chinese march on the himalayas not the russians

I would like to post my blog here as the circumstances requires some reflection: 

India in a Digital Chakravyuh: Carving Tech Sovereignty in a Global Landscape

In today's geopolitical climate, India finds itself in a modern-day Chakravyuh, just like the legendary warrior Abhimanyu in the epic Mahabharata, who found himself trapped in the formidable Chakravyuh - a sophisticated military formation he knew how to enter but not how to exit. Today, India finds itself in a similar predicament, entangled in a web of foreign-born technological dependencies that pose a threat to its long term goals of economical and technological sovereignty - a complex maze that both empowers as well as constrains our nation. This Digital Chakravyuh, presents India with a pivotal challenge in its quest for reclaiming its civilizational status and achieving digital sovereignty. 

As the U.S. and Europe wake up to the realities of a rising China, significant efforts are underway to de-risk and reduce dependencies on Chinese-made technologies. But the Dragon, with its tech and manufacturing-enabled economy, stretches its limbs beyond the Indo-Pacific, and Washington and Brussels are struggling to tame it. Now, in desperation, the West is now crying foul of the once long-cherished free market, and resorting to label China and its products a threat to their national security. Thus, setting the stage for a climactic departure from an interconnected and globalized digital supply chain to a more vile and short-sighted protectionism and trade wars. These recent geopolitical events break open the struggle for a multipolar world and bring to light the dangerous risks of over-reliance on foreign digital infrastructure and globalization for countries around the globe. 

At home, there is no doubt India's enthusiasm to embrace foreign technologies propelled the digital economy forward. However, accepting the new realities, India too needs to re-assess its policy priorities and national security concerns. From foreign-made social media platforms shaping public discourse to critical data stored on foreign servers, from imported semiconductors powering our devices to foreign-developed operating systems running them - each layer of these foreign technologies reflects a growing concern of digital vassalization and neo-colonization. 

However, the path forward for India is clear, yet daring: we must carve our way through this Digital Chakravyuh or else be crushed in the ever-growing dependencies that intertwine us.

This blog explores India's journey towards technological self-reliance in an increasingly complex global tech landscape.





The Silicon Imperative: Lessons from the US-China Tech War
The ever-escalating US-China tech war tightened with US restrictions on exporting critical silicon chips to Huawei, citing national security concerns. This move crushed Huawei's ambition to become the world's top smartphone company. The US branding of Chinese tech as a national security threat is an attempt to stunt China's growth and preserve America's global technological dominance. But this had an unintended consequence: it pushed China to develop indigenous technologies for digital sovereignty. 

For India, these developments serve as an important lesson. At the moment, we import chips for our domestic needs. If we are caught up in the middle of a geo-political rivalry with the west, we too have to face the same fate as the Chinese, but it would be much more catastrophic, as our home grown semiconductor industry is still in its infancy. Thus, by accepting the new realities of de-risking, we need to acknowledge the huge disadvantage we are in right now and work towards an independent semiconductor industry. While the recent announcement of a $10 billion incentive package for semiconductor manufacturing is a good sign, we must accelerate our efforts, as the West and China are decades ahead of us. Moreover, India also needs to realize that having an indigenous semiconductor industry is not anymore a luxury, but an imperative for self-reliance. Only by doing so can we ensure that India's technological growth is not subject to the demands of other nations but driven by our own principles and interests.

So India's goal should be to develop its own technological capabilities independently, ensuring that in times of a geo-politcal turmoil we are well prepared. By investing heavily in our own semiconductor industry, from design to fabrication, we can insulate ourselves from similar vulnerabilities and position ourselves as a key player in the digital landscape. 

Indigenous Development: Navigating the Chakravyuh

India's quest for technological self-reliance has been ongoing for decades, with significant strides made in various domains. From ISRO to the IT revolution, from nuclear technology to Aadhaar and UPI, we have demonstrated our capacity for innovation and large-scale technological implementation.

The recent Make in India initiative, fastest 5G rollout, significant increase in startups, and the development of advancements in defense technology, such as the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas showcase willingness, but when compared to other powers, we are just trying to catch-up. 

Also, these achievements still rely on foreign components and technologies. So we cannot claim these developments as completely “Make in India”, but as only - “Assembled in India”. For example, the indigenously developed Tejas is yet to achieve 100% percentage indigenisation of all critical parts.

To truly achieve technological sovereignty, India needs to:

1. Substantially increase investment in fundamental research and development
2. Develop robust ecosystems for critical technologies, especially semiconductors
3. Focus on upskilling and reskilling the workforce for high-tech manufacturing
4. Encourage more public-private partnerships in critical technology sectors
5. A complete overhaul of our rote educational system 

Unfortunately, divided by politics, caste, and religion, India is now a cesspool of misplaced priorities. If India desires to be a global leader, it seriously needs to rethink where it is heading. A critical self-reflection, realigning its posturing, daring decisions—even if it burns some bridges—and a fresh new look at policies and laws would help India get back on its feet.

overthehills54

BENNYRASHASHA

India survived without anyone's support since 1990s with arms twisted, pushed, and still standing tall, This wouldn't make a diff either way. India will stand tall eventually in the defense world, this is just drama to stall to get there, give some stall a lot, it is like carrot before a horse, horse will never get the carrot and will keep walking ...

Working-Bowler-2321

They do it because india is a rising market, and the country who believes in capitalism, it will do anything for his country businessmen.

Cancermvivek

SS: US Senator Marco Rubio on Thursday introduced a bill in the Congress that proposes to treat India on par with its allies like as Japan, Israel, Korea and NATO allies regarding technology transfers, support India in its response to growing threats to its territorial integrity and bar Pakistan from receiving security assistance if it is found to have sponsored terrorism against India.
"Communist China continues to aggressively expand its domain in the Indo-Pacific region, all while it seeks to impede the sovereignty and autonomy of our regional partners. It's crucial for the U.S. to continue its support in countering these malicious tactics. India, along with other nations in the region, is not alone," Rubio said after he introduced the U.S.-India Defense Cooperation Act in the Senate.
Given the short timeline of a bitterly divided Congress in an election year, the bill is unlikely to make much headway, but might be reintroduced in the next Congress given that there is a bipartisan level of support on the India-US relationship. The bill notes that the US-India partnership is vital to countering influences from Communist China. In order to strengthen this partnership, it is essential to enhance our strategic diplomatic, economic, and military relationship with New Delhi, it asserts.

Consistent-Figure820

continuation:

Threat to Indian Democracy: Social Media Vassalization and Election Interference

India's heavy reliance on foreign social media platforms like Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp highlights a critical vulnerability in our digital infrastructure. Indians have enthusiastically embraced these platforms, and use them as their own.

You cannot build your digital communication ecosystem in someone else's backyard. 

A nation this large cannot play second fiddle to some power that lies across the Atlantic. India needs to develop its own social media platforms or risk dancing to the tunes of what foreign powers want it to play, becoming a poster child of social media neo-colonialism.
Straining Ties: A possibility 

With NATO shifting its strategy to the Indo-Pacific, and the recent outcry and contempt by the West over India buying Russian oil, straining ties are evident. The US-led West is realizing the potential threats other nations can have over its hegemony. While sharing common values and democracy, a false sense of security and being a counterweight to China keep India in the good books to the West, rejecting the possibility of India becoming a power that questions their hegemony can be myopic, if not outright ignorance from our side. So, a US-led Western sanctions on India are a possibility one must foresee in the coming years.

A scenario where India faces US-led Western sanctions similar to those imposed on Russia may happen. In such a situation, the West would have the power to effectively "seal" this digital Chakravyuh, cutting off India from the global digital ecosystem. Social media apps, which now serve as the primary interface for communication among millions of Indians, could be abruptly disabled. 

Moreover, Indian businesses and individuals could lose access to crucial services provided by tech giants like Google, Amazon Web Services, and even AI tools like ChatGPT. Many Indian startups make use of Google Workspace as their foundation for building their startups. This digital dependency creates a precarious situation where, like Abhimanyu in the Chakravyuha, India could find itself surrounded and vulnerable. 

The West could potentially cripple India's communication, commerce, and technological capabilities without engaging in physical warfare. The disruption this can have would be far-reaching, from effectively destroying everything from day-to-day communications to the functioning of businesses and government services that rely on these technologies - the West can take India back to the colonial ages.

The question to ask is: Do the Indian policymakers and leadership have a plan in mind in case of such a catastrophic event? 
How long? 

How long? This is a question Indians themselves need to answer. As populism increasingly dictates policy, Indians have a major role to play in this matter, perhaps even more than the Indian government.

With digital sovereignty and AI, the new realities of a self-reliant nation and data being the new “Oil”, Indians need to get their act together and work towards an independent India free from the impacts of any foreign power. 

The alternative 

The alternative – becoming a technological and economic vassal of the West – is simply unacceptable for a nation of our size, potential, and ambition. By embracing the challenge of technological independence, we can secure India's place as a true global power, beholden to none and master of its own destiny. 

As recent global events have shown, the United States and its allies have demonstrated their unwillingness to tolerate any country with superpower aspirations that might challenge their global supremacy. For India to truly secure its place on the world stage, we must prioritize technological self-reliance across all critical sectors.All these potential disruptions show the importance of self-reliance, and the urgent need for India to develop robust, indigenous alternatives to these technologies. 

It's not just about convenience or national pride; rather a matter of national security and sovereignty.

The problem of this is that then there would be corresponding expectations from India as well. The US has accepted our current strategic autonomy w.r.t Russia because it’s very clear we are not allied to the U.S.  it has not shown similar acceptance towards accepting Hungarian and Turkish strategic autonomy (because they are U.S. allies). India needs to be careful to not be sucked in too deeply into American alliance systems because it would erode future foreign policy options.

Sumeru88

I hope this can be a bipartisan bill in their Congress

AffectionateStorm106

For some reason, Republicans are far more amiable toward India than Democrats seem to be. Ilhan Omar literally visits Pakistan for God's sake. 

grifterrrrr

Stop funding regime change operations in india

Im_RiCK_SaNCHeZ_

important reminder , Pakistan is still a major non NATO ally

Aggressive_Bed_9774

B_Aran_393

Well, this can't hurt. 


But also, Marco Rubio isn't a serious politician. Watch Chris Christie take him apart in the 2016 Republican debate. 

barbhaya

The bill also asks to restrict assisting Pakistan for supporting proxy terrorism in India although in practical reality, I'd doubt they'll do anything given that it's a well known fact by now and support is still present.


My main concern for this would be obligations on our part. The bill doesn't ask anything of us and being a NATO ally doesn't necessarily translate to a mutual defensive alliance but it would still put India into a spotlight and continue to colour American expectations from us in both positive and negative ways.


It's an interesting proposal. The biggest benefit would be a more relaxed leash on defense exports and tech transfers which is a positive.

Nomustang

Recently watched Donald lu's statement on how America is seeing Pak for the future, paraphrasing something like china is pak's past, future is America.

Ok-Flounder9846

So the policy is to support Pakistan while calling India the top ally.

If India wants to be treated like an ally maybe it should act like one first?

essenceofreddit



🔗 **Bypass paywalls**:

* [economictimes.com](https://archive.is/submit/?submitid=&amp;url=https://economictimes.com/opinion/et-commentary/can-india-navigate-the-challenges-of-us-relations-under-trumps-leadership/articleshow/121553891.cms)

📣 **[Submission Statement by OP](/r/GeopoliticsIndia/comments/1l1de3y/can_india_navigate_the_challenges_of_us_relations/mvk5jzf/)**:
&gt; Submission Statement: 
&gt;
&gt;Despite the challenges posed by Donald Trump's unpredictable rhetoric, India and the US continue to strengthen their bilateral relationship with a focus on strategic cooperation. Last week, the two countries held a comprehensive, two-day dialogue at the White House, tackling a range of issues, including emerging technologies, energy, defense procurement, counterterrorism, and the India-Middle East-Europe Economic Corridor. Although the India-Pakistan military confrontation was acknowledged, the focus remained on long-term goals set during Modi’s February visit. Indian officials worked proactively to keep the US informed about regional tensions and emphasized Pakistan’s role in terrorism and its need to be placed back on the FATF grey list. A significant outcome of the talks was the possible date of the upcoming Quad Foreign Ministers' meeting in Washington on July 1, showcasing further collaboration between the US, India, Japan, and Australia. Despite concerns over Trump's policies—such as proposed tariffs and stricter controls—India and the US are managing these issues through ‘stealth diplomacy,’ recognizing that their converging interests outweigh the differences. While challenges from China and Pakistan remain, India's priority remains on economic growth and military modernization, with both sides working to maintain a robust partnership. 

**📜 Community Reminder**: Let’s keep our discussions civil, respectful, and on-topic. Abide by the subreddit rules. Rule-violating comments will be removed.

❓ Questions or concerns? [Contact our moderators](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=/r/GeopoliticsIndia).

Submission Statement: 


Despite the challenges posed by Donald Trump's unpredictable rhetoric, India and the US continue to strengthen their bilateral relationship with a focus on strategic cooperation. Last week, the two countries held a comprehensive, two-day dialogue at the White House, tackling a range of issues, including emerging technologies, energy, defense procurement, counterterrorism, and the India-Middle East-Europe Economic Corridor. Although the India-Pakistan military confrontation was acknowledged, the focus remained on long-term goals set during Modi’s February visit. Indian officials worked proactively to keep the US informed about regional tensions and emphasized Pakistan’s role in terrorism and its need to be placed back on the FATF grey list. A significant outcome of the talks was the possible date of the upcoming Quad Foreign Ministers' meeting in Washington on July 1, showcasing further collaboration between the US, India, Japan, and Australia. Despite concerns over Trump's policies—such as proposed tariffs and stricter controls—India and the US are managing these issues through ‘stealth diplomacy,’ recognizing that their converging interests outweigh the differences. While challenges from China and Pakistan remain, India's priority remains on economic growth and military modernization, with both sides working to maintain a robust partnership.

Whole-Difficulty4327

During a bilateral meeting, India and Australia reaffirmed their commitment to combat terrorism and enhance defence cooperation, focusing on regional security and mutual interests in the Indo-Pacific region.

India-Australia Defence and Counter-Terrorism Collaboration

Why This Matters

Public Sentiment Summary

Highlighted Comments

Parties Involved

What the people want